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Hannity vs. Hannity: Is he, or is he not, a "journalist"?

Within a matter of days, Fox News host and syndicated radio host Sean Hannity identified his professional position in contradictory ways. As Media Matters for America documented, on the October 7 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, Hannity defended the presence of Andy Martin -- who has called a judge a "crooked, slimy Jew" and accused African-American public officials of corruption -- on the October 5 edition of Hannity's America by saying: "I'm a journalist who interviews people who I disagree with all the time, that give their opinion. Fox has all points of view." By contrast, in an October 8 New York Daily News article highlighting Hannity's "new multiyear, multimillion-dollar contract" with Fox News, Hannity reportedly said the opposite about his position: Hannity doesn't call himself a journalist, but rather a talk show host, which is significant because it frees him to offer opinions when he wants. "Somedays, I'll do a fair and objective, balanced interview; somedays, I'll be arguing with somebody, and somedays, I'll have an investigative report," he said. "I have an opinion. Everybody knows it. Everybody who sees me, watches me, knows I'm a conservative." Hannity made a similar claim four years earlier, when he said on the July 7, 2004, edition of Hannity & Colmes: "I'm not a journalist. I am an outspoken, compassionate, thoughtful, independent-thinking conservative -- a Reagan conservative, in my view. Unlike these other guys that claim to be fair." From the July 7, 2004, edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes (transcript retrieved from the Nexis news database): HANNITY: Here is -- one of the things that I find interesting, too, I am not -- and you lay this out. You even mention my name. Thank you very much. Thanks for the plug. BRENT BOZELL (president, Media Research Center): Yes. You needed it. Your career needed a boost from me. HANNITY: It does, it does. But they say Sean Hannity -- I'm not a journalist. I am an outspoken, compassionate, thoughtful, independent-thinking conservative -- a Reagan conservative, in my view. Unlike these other guys that claim to be fair. They have the agenda. For whatever reason, there is a really antipathy, animosity, outright hatred and hostility to the success of conservative media, talk radio, the Internet. They can't stand that the voices -- all sides are heard on FOX. BOZELL: No. They can't stand you folks at FOX. HANNITY: They hate me. BOZELL: They really do. And frankly, look what's happening. The more they attack FOX, the better FOX is doing in the ratings. Because people take look at FOX and like it.

"[J]ournalist" Sean Hannity gives bogus defense for interviewing Andy Martin

On the October 7 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, co-host Sean Hannity defended his October 5 interview with Andy Martin -- who has called a judge a "crooked, slimy Jew" and accused African-American public officials of corruption -- by saying: "I'm a journalist who interviews people who I disagree with all the time, that give their opinion. Fox has all points of view." However, during the October 5 segment, which aired on Fox News' Hannity's America, Hannity did not challenge any assertion or statement by Martin, nor did he mention any of Martin's anti-Semitic and racially charged statements. On Hannity & Colmes, Robert Gibbs, an adviser to Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign, said to Hannity: "On your show on Sunday ... the show that's named after you ... [t]he centerpiece of that show was a guy named Andy Martin." Gibbs added that "Andy Martin called a judge a 'crooked, slimy Jew' " and that "Martin went on to write that he understood better why the Holocaust took place." During the exchange, Hannity said: "When I interviewed Malik Shabazz, when I interviewed Al Sharpton, when I interviewed all these controversial figures -- you see, on Fox, we actually interview people of all points of view, whether we agree or disagree." Gibbs later asked, "Why am I not to believe that you're anti-Semitic? Why am I not to believe that everybody who works for the network is anti-Semitic because Sean Hannity gives a platform to somebody who thinks Jews are 'slimy'?" Hannity, who told Gibbs that Martin's anti-Semitic comments are "despicable," further asserted: "Mr. Gibbs, I'm a journalist who interviews people who I disagree with all the time, that give their opinion. Fox has all points of view. We're allowing you on the program, and I don't agree with hardly anything Obama says." However, despite Hannity's acknowledgment that Martin's comments about Jews are "despicable," not once during the report featuring Martin did Hannity question an assertion or a statement from Martin. And as Media Matters for America has documented, Hannity also failed to note Martin's history of smears against Obama and his anti-Semitic and racially charged comments. By contrast, Hannity has openly disagreed with statements made by others on his television shows, including those by Rev. Al Sharpton and Black Lawyers for Justice spokesman Malik Shabazz, both of whom Hannity cited in defending his interview with Martin. From the April 22 edition of Fox News' Hannity's America, in which Hannity debated Sharpton (transcript retrieved from the Nexis news database): HANNITY: Reverend Al, the only people I see that are using race in this campaign is Barack Obama himself, who brings it up a lot, and a lot of his surrogates. For example, he said many times on the campaign trail, "They're going to try and make you afraid of me. They're going to say I have a funny name. They're going to say I don't look like those guys on the currency. Oh, and did they tell you, he's black?" Can you name anyone in the McCain campaign, any prominent Republican, that has brought up any of those issues? SHARPTON: Well, again, I think you missed what I said. I said that I don't think that race is going to be the deciding factor. HANNITY: I'm not asking you that. Barack Obama has said this five times himself, and I've got it on tape every time. He said this. SHARPTON: I think that, if I recall, Barack Obama stood in this city, Sean, and made a whole speech about race and how we must get beyond it, so I don't see how the one that tried to heal... HANNITY: Wait a minute. SHARPTON: ... the whole racial polarization that was raised about his own pastor, how... HANNITY: No, that's not accurate. He was there... SHARPTON: ... how you can now make him the one that is being racially polarized. (CROSSTALK) HANNITY: No, he was there -- he was there to stop the political bleeding when his pastor of 20 years, his spiritual mentor, you know, called us the U.S. KKK of A. and "America's chickens have come home to roost," and not "God bless America," "G-D America." So he said it at that time. But Barack Obama said repeatedly that "they're going to say I have a funny name. They're going to say that I don't look like the guys in the currency. They're going to say, "Oh, by the way, he's black.'" The only people that I see bringing up race is Barack himself, Kathleen Sebelius, Governor Paterson, and now Michael Dukakis today. All Obama surrogates. Who in the Republican Party is bringing up race? SHARPTON: I think that -- I think, of course -- I would expect a lot of people that are going to try to attack -- going to try to distort the picture. The fact is I think he's gone out of his way and has even been attacked by some in the black community for going out of his way. HANNITY: Then why does he keep saying that? SHARPTON: I would like to be able to finish. HANNITY: Go ahead. From the July 16, 2007, edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes , in which Hannity interviewed Shabazz (from Nexis): HANNITY: Malik, do you believe, because we're talking about Nazi references by Keith Ellison. But in your life, do you believe Jewish people had any evidence of 9/11 ahead of time, as you have suggested in the past? SHABAZZ: I only know that Ariel Sharon was scheduled for a news conference at the White House that was abruptly canceled on September 11th. Again, the families of those victims of 9/11 are saying that the government had foreknowledge of what was going to happen and could have been prevented. Congressman Ellison is saying that the U.S., that Bush manipulated the war, the 9/11 events to create a bogeyman called the Muslims, like Hitler created a bogeyman called the Communists, to rise into problem. HANNITY: Here's my problem here. Here's my problem. You were friends with Khalid Mohammed (ph), who once used the term, you know, "hook- nosed, bagel-eating, lox-eating, so-called Jews." You're friends with Louis Farrakhan. (CROSSTALK) SHABAZZ: That's off the topic. You are way off the topic. HANNITY: No, it's not. It's about your conspiracy theory. It's about your associating with known anti-Semites. And now we have a congressman that uses Nazi references to refer to the Bush administration. SHABAZZ: It's about you. Bush has gone from 90 percent approval to 20 percent. You, Sean Hannity, must face it. He's on a sinking ship with George Bush. From the October 7 edition of Hannity & Colmes: GIBBS: Let's do this -- do you think -- so you think he's guilty by association, right? HANNITY: No, I would -- I, Sean Hannity -- here's my answer -- would never sit on a board with a guy that bombed our Pentagon or our Capitol, and I want to know -- GIBBS: Can I ask you -- can I ask you a question? HANNITY: No, no -- wait, wait. Why does Barack Obama sit on a board with -- why did he stay, knowing his past, why did he be friends with him? GIBBS: What William Ayers did was deplorable, and when he did it, Barack Obama was 8. And Barack Obama said it was a deplorable act. HANNITY: Then why would he sit on a -- why would you sit on a board -- would you sit on a board that a guy that bombed the Pentagon and wasn't sorry about it? GIBBS: He sat on a charitable board, and a board funded by a conservative Republican and a friend of Ronald Reagan -- HANNITY: Was that poor judgment? GIBBS: That was Walter Annenberg -- is who that was. HANNITY: Was that poor judgment on Obama's part? GIBBS: I don't think that was poor judgment at all. I think what Barack Obama's done throughout his career is talk about the big issues that are important to him. HANNITY: No, you're giving me spin, now. I'm asking you -- GIBBS: Now let me ask you one question. HANNITY: All right, you ask me a question. GIBBS: OK. Are you anti-Semitic? HANNITY: Not at all. GIBBS: OK. On your show on Sunday -- HANNITY: Mm-hmm. GIBBS: -- you, the show that's named after you -- HANNITY: Uh-huh. GIBBS: -- right? The centerpiece of that show was a guy named Andy Martin. HANNITY: I know you're reading your talking points you brought in. GIBBS: No, no. I don't have talking points -- HANNITY: When I interview, when I interview -- hang on, I'm going to answer your question. When I interviewed Malik Shabazz, when I interviewed Al Sharpton, when I interviewed all these controversial figures -- you see, on Fox, we actually interview people of all points of view, whether we agree or disagree. GIBBS: So -- HANNITY: I -- the statement that you're about to read, I -- GIBBS: Andy Martin called a judge a "crooked, slimy Jew" -- HANNITY: I -- I totally, completely -- GIBBS: -- "who has a history of lying and thieving common to members" -- HANNITY: Here's my answer to you -- GIBBS: -- of his race." Martin went on to write that he understood better why the Holocaust took place "given that Jew survivors are operating as a wolfpack to steal my property." HANNITY: Here's my answer to you: I find those comments despicable. But wait a minute -- GIBBS: You put him on your show. It's the Hannity -- HANNITY: We put Malik Shabazz on the show -- GIBBS: It's the Hannity show. HANNITY: I put Khalid Mohammed on my show -- GIBBS: Why am I not to believe that you're anti-Semitic? HANNITY: Let me -- here's -- here's the answer -- GIBBS: Why am I not to believe that everybody who works for the network is anti-Semitic -- HANNITY: Mr. Gibbs -- Mr. Gibbs -- GIBBS: -- because Sean Hannity gives a platform to somebody who thinks Jews are "slimy"? HANNITY: Mr. Gibbs, I'm a journalist who interviews people who I disagree with all the time, that give their opinion. Fox has all points of view. We're allowing you on the program, and I don't agree with hardly anything Obama says. GIBBS: Well -- HANNITY: So here's my -- no, no, no -- I'm gonna answer -- GIBBS: I really wish you wouldn't give a platform to virulent anti-Semites, who can't even get a law license in Illinois. HANNITY: Here's -- I will tell you this -- if I -- if you -- I'll make a deal with you. GIBBS: Do that. HANNITY: If Barack Obama admits that what he did by sitting on a board with, giving speeches with, having Ayer -- going over to Ayers' house -- GIBBS: You'll admit you're anti-Semitic? HANNITY: No, no. I will admit to you -- I will tell you that Barack Obama wants to be president, that it's poor judgment, it is irresponsible, and it's reckless to be -- let me finish -- to be friends with a guy that bombed our Pentagon, was at war with our country, whose motto was to kill our children and kill your parents -- GIBBS: And I think it's deplorable that you have had somebody on TV that's anti-Semitic -- HANNITY: And I think it's deplorable that your candidate for president has not been honest with the American people -- GIBBS: -- that called Jews "slimy" and understands the Holocaust better because of the way he -- COLMES: We only have a short time here. HANNITY: I'm explaining -- let me finish first -- let me finish. I'm explaining to you -- GIBBS: I can't believe you would give a platform to somebody like that. HANNITY: So you don't want me to interview anybody I agree or dis -- only I can interview only people you disagree with? GIBBS: You put your whole show around him, Sean. HANNITY: Barack Obama -- listen -- GIBBS: Why am I not to believe that you agree with each and every thing that Andy Martin says? HANNITY: Listen, Barack Obama the president sat in the pew of Jeremiah Wright for 20 years, a guy who hates America. Barack Obama is friends with William Pfleger. I have one last question: Did Barack Obama ever sit and meet with Louis Farrakhan? Has he ever met with Louis Farrakhan? GIBBS: I don't -- I don't know the answer to that. HANNITY: Will you give us an answer by tomorrow? GIBBS: Will you get back to me on whether you're anti-Semitic, or whether you're -- HANNITY: Oh, oh -- I'm not anti-Semitic. I'm the biggest supporter of Israel -- [former Israeli Prime Minister] Benjamin Netanyahu blurbed my book. GIBBS: Let me say I don't think you're Jewish viewers are going to take it very well -- HANNITY: Excuse me -- excuse me -- GIBBS: -- that you put somebody like that on your show -- HANNITY: I am the biggest supporter of Israel, and I've got a 30-year history on the record of it. GIBBS: Well, ask some of their friends what Andy Martin said. Here, you take this -- you take that -- HANNITY: I'm not friends with a guy that bombed the Pentagon. I'm not friends with a guy who bombed the Capitol -- COLMES: Let me jump in here for a second -- hold on, guys -- HANNITY: Your candidate is friends with him, not me. [crosstalk] GIBBS: Ask some of your -- ask Benjamin Netanyahu about him -- HANNITY: Your candidate is friends with a terrorist. GIBBS: That's not true. HANNITY: He sits on a board with a terrorist. COLMES: Hey, guys -- guys, stop it. First of all, he's not anti-Semitic, he's not -- HANNITY: Thank you very much. COLMES: He's not anti-Semitic. But look, this game of guilt by association I disagree with on all fronts.

Christian radio host Jan Markell hosted conservative activist Nonie Darwish, who advanced claim that Obama is a "political Muslim"

On the September 16 broadcast of her syndicated Christian radio talk show, Understanding the Times, Jan Markell hosted "former Muslim" Nonie Darwish, who claimed that "whether he believes in Islam or not," Sen. Barack Obama is a "political Muslim" who, as a child, was "immersed in a culture that was anti-American." Darwish is the author of the book, Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel, and the War on Terror (Sentinel, November 2006). During the broadcast, Markell asked Darwish, "Do you feel he [Obama] has strong ties to the Islamic world?" Darwish replied, "[F]rom what we hear, Obama was immersed -- whether he believes in Islam or not -- but he got immersed in a culture that was anti-American as a child." Darwish went on to say, "Whether he calls himself a Muslim or not, it -- he [sic] doesn't matter. There are many Muslims who are political Muslims that I know." Later, Darwish said, "I believe that Obama is a political Muslim," and stated that "Obama was influenced by" Islam, "a very political religion." When Markell responded, "OK, but he's -- we've got to clarify that that does not mean he's practicing," Darwish replied: "He's not a Muslim, but he -- he's -- the way he expresses himself politically -- the one thing to take care of everybody through the government, this is an Islamic concept, because, in Islam, you want to dominate every aspect of a person's life through the government." Darwish also said Islam is "not a true religion," and that "inside Islam, it's a rotten religion." Darwish appeared on Fox News and CNN in 2006 to promote the documentary, Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West. According to the Huffington Post, on September 7, 145,000 DVDs of Obsession were bundled as an advertising supplement in The New York Times' newspapers sent to markets in swing states, and "also came with national publications like the Chronicle of Higher Education, the Wall Street Journal and the Jewish World Digest." The documentary reportedly "showcases scenes of Muslim children being encouraged to become suicide bombers, interspersed with shots of Nazi rallies" and lists New York-based group the Clarion Fund as its distributor on the advertisements. The founder of Olive Tree Ministries in Maple Grove, Minnesota, Markell is a self-described Messianic Jew who converted from Judaism to Christianity as a young girl. Markell's radio show, Understanding the Times, is syndicated nationwide by Salem Radio Network, a Christian-themed broadcast company "serving more than 1500 radio stations." From the September 16 broadcast of Salem Radio Network's Understanding the Times: MARKELL: Do you feel he has strong ties to the Islamic world? DARWISH: Yes. Well, it started home. His mother, I think, was a little bit of a radical. MARKELL: Yes, she was. Hmm-mm. DARWISH: So, who -- in those days, those radicals really were anti-American -- they had anti-American sentiment. So, she was a young girl, 17, 18, who had a baby with a man, who had wives in Kenya, from Kenya -- he's a student here. She had a baby with him, and then when it didn't work out, he went back to Kenya with his wives, and then she married another Muslim man from Indonesia, so, you can -- and then Obama lived in Indonesia in an Islamic school, with his own admission. MARKELL: Hmm-mm. Right, he admits that. DARWISH: Yeah, so, from what we hear, Obama was immersed -- whether he believes in Islam or not -- but he got immersed in a culture that was anti-American as a child. And when -- even with -- when he came to America, he picked a church that was totally anti-American church. He went with his feelings, and he called that pastor his uncle. MARKELL: Yeah. DARWISH: So, what does that mean? He -- MARKELL: Well, I think it means that he was influenced heavily, as a -- DARWISH: -- by Islam. MARKELL: Yeah. DARWISH: Absolutely. Whether he calls himself a Muslim or not, it -- he doesn't matter. There are many Muslims who are political Muslims that I know. MARKELL: Well, I -- you have to define the term, though, "political Muslim." DARWISH: Yes. Islam is a very political religion. It wants to dominate people from the -- there is no separation of church and state under Islamic law. And it is an expansionist religion because if it doesn't expand, it will implode. It will destroy itself because it's not a true religion. So, it's always in a race to expand, otherwise it will destroy itself. And that's why they're always looking for new lands, new people to convince that they are right -- because inside Islam, it's a rotten religion. Internally, it doesn't produce a balanced society. It doesn't produce a society that is a happy society. And Obama was influenced by all of that. He -- I believe that Obama is a political Muslim. MARKELL: OK, but he's -- we've got to clarify that that does not mean he's practicing. DARWISH: He's not a Muslim -- MARKELL: No. DARWISH: -- but he -- he's -- the way he expresses himself politically -- the one thing to take care of everybody through the government, this is an Islamic concept, because, in Islam, you want to dominate every aspect of a person's life through the government.

Liddy guest Walid Shoebat falsely claimed that Obama is "definitely a Muslim"

On the September 10 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, G. Gordon Liddy hosted self-described former terrorist Walid Shoebat to advance the false claim that Sen. Barack Obama, whom Shoebat said would be "extremely dangerous" as president, is a Muslim. Liddy also did not challenge Shoebat's false claim that Hamas supports Obama. During the interview, Liddy asked Shoebat: "Obama was in a -- in Indonesia, in a public school and in a Catholic school. And in the Catholic school, he was listed as a Muslim. And he was over in Indonesia, which is a Muslim country, until the age of 10. How much of that Muslim indoctrination would carry over?" Shoebat speculated that Obama was subject to extreme teachings at the "government school" he attended in Indonesia and later claimed: "You can see -- even speeches of Barack Hussein Obama saying that Arab-American families that's rounded up, he would help them. He's talking about the same kind of issues that CAIR, Council on American-Islamic Relations, would want to fight for, and that is fighting for the terrorist cause." He also said: "No one is called Hussein unless he is Muslim. So it is very clear that Barack Hussein Obama is definitely a Muslim." Shoebat also said: "In Islam, in the law of Sharia of Islam, the Prophet of Islam said ... whoever leaves the Islamic faith is to be killed. So what part of killing people don't understand? He is not called to be killed by the Muslims. Why do they support him? I haven't heard a really serious testimony of his Christian conversion. A Muslim who converts to Christianity, the first thing he does is denounces Islam. Has Barack Hussein Obama denounced Islam as a false religion?" Liddy responded: "No." Shoebat also claimed, without challenge from Liddy: "So, you can see from Al Qaeda to the Muslim Brotherhood to Hamas, every single Muslim terrorist organization supports Barack Hussein Obama. So why would Americans want to have a president that is connected to Islam and that is proud to be Muslim?" Shoebat cited no evidence that Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood support Obama. Regarding Hamas, as Media Matters for America has noted, while Ahmed Yousef, chief political adviser to the prime minister of Hamas, reportedly said in an April 13 interview with conservative radio host John Batchelor and WorldNetDaily.com Jerusalem bureau chief Aaron Klein that he liked Obama and hoped he would win the election, a Hamas official responded to Obama's June 4 speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee by saying, according to Reuters, "Hamas does not differentiate between the two presidential candidates, Obama and [Sen. John] McCain, because their policies regarding the Arab-Israel conflict are the same and are hostile to us, therefore we do have no preference and are not wishing for either of them to win." Later, Liddy asked Shoebat: "Would you consider Barack Hussein Obama dangerous if he were commander in chief of the -- all the power and might of the armed forces of the United States?" Shoebat replied: "He would be extremely dangerous. He would -- he's already calling for dismantlement of nuclear weapons. He's already calling for negotiations with Islamists. He's already calling to help Arabs who are arrested in America. He's already professed to hold hands with the Muslims, and wanting to hold hands with the Muslims in his book. In his book, it's very clear." According to his website, Shoebat has appeared several times on radio and television, including on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes and The O'Reilly Factor and CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck. From the September 10 broadcast of Radio America's The G. Gordon Liddy Show: LIDDY: Walid, will you take a moment to tell us your life story, in a nutshell? SHOEBAT: In a nutshell, my life story is similar to Barack Hussein Obama, because I have an American mother, married a Palestinian father. Went to the Middle East, she wasn't allowed to leave for 35 years. And from my father's perspective, you know, his father was friends with Haj Amin al-Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem, who collaborated with Hitler to destroy the Jews. And my mother's side, her grandfather was friends with Winston Churchill, who wanted to destroy Nazism. So, I lived both worlds of the Christian and Muslim as well. I went to Christian schools in the Middle East, I went to similar schools that Barack Hussein Obama went to, I understand the Muslim mindset, and I grew up pro-Islamic. Came to the States, was inculcated in the system of the Muslim Brotherhood in America. Was underground in Chicago, same even city as Barack Hussein Obama. And you can see on my website, Shoebat.com, S-H-O-E-B-A-T.com. At the bottom of the website, you can see the kind of activities we were doing in Chicago. Islamic activities, pro-Hamas -- even before Hamas. You know, you can see the violence and the attempted change in America to make it pro-Islamic and pro-Sharia. LIDDY: Shoebat, Obama was in a -- in Indonesia, in a public school and in a Catholic school. And in the Catholic school, he was listed as a Muslim. SHOEBAT: That's right. LIDDY: And he was over in Indonesia, which is a Muslim country, until the age of 10. How much of that Muslim indoctrination would carry over? SHOEBAT: Well, when I went to a government school -- you know, it wasn't a madrassa. He was not in a madrassa school, but it was a government school. And in those schools, from fifth grade, we learned what is called Islamic eschatology, that the day of judgment will not come to pass until the tribes of Islam destroy the tribes of Israel, the Jewish people. And then the trees and the stones will cry out: There is a Jew hiding behind me. We would learn Islamic eschatology. We would learn that it's an honor for a Muslim to die as a martyr, to shed his blood for the cause of Allah. We would learn that the establishment of Sharia law is a mandate. We would learn that fighting jihad is a mandate against Israel, against the West, and those kinds of things. This is even in a government school, not even in a madrassa, as most Westerners -- LIDDY: Well, would he have achieved -- been exposed to those things at the age of 10, in a government school over there in Indonesia? SHOEBAT: Yes. It would be the same thing, it would be exactly the same kind of an education system. Barack Hussein Obama's connection is very clear. He rallied for his cousin Odinga in Kenya, in which Odinga wanted to establish Islamic-compliant Sharia law in Kenya. So, you know, even his Christian connection with Pastor Wright, who collaborated with Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam in 1993 to visit Muammar Qaddafi in Libya. Odinga called for change, similar to the change of Barack Hussein Obama. You can see -- even speeches of Barack Hussein Obama saying that Arab-American families that's rounded up, he would help them. He's talking about the same kind of issues that CAIR, Council on American-Islamic Relations, would want to fight for, and that is fighting for the terrorist cause. Every single terror organization in the world -- Islamic terror organization in the world supports Barack Hussein Obama. His name is Barack Hussein Obama. Hussein is one of the prophet's names. Muhammad the prophet -- some of his names are Mustafa, Muhammad, Ahmad, Hassan, Hussein -- all of these are Islamic names portraying Muhammad, to be proud Muslims. His grandchildren are Hassan and Hussein. This is all Islamic names. No one is called Hussein unless he is Muslim. So it is very clear that Barack Hussein Obama is definitely a Muslim. His Christian convert -- I converted to Christianity. Where is the Christianity of Barack Hussein Obama? This is what he adheres to in his Christian theology is the same Christian theology that the Christian terrorists in the Palestinian areas adhere to. You have the PFLP, Popular Front to Liberate Palestine, led by George Habash, a Christian, supposedly. And they adhere to what is called the liberation theology, as Pastor Wright adheres to. That kind of theology is very close to Islamic theology, in which it calls for jihad and the same kind of thing. So, you could see from his Christian claim that, you know, being connected to Pastor Wright, that it's not Christianity whatsoever. In Islam, in the law of Sharia of Islam, the Prophet of Islam said [speaking Arabic] whoever leaves the Islamic faith is to be killed. So what part of killing people don't understand? He is not called to be killed by the Muslims. Why do they support him? I haven't heard a really serious testimony of his Christian conversion. A Muslim who converts to Christianity, the first thing he does is denounces Islam. Has Barack Hussein Obama denounced Islam as a false religion? LIDDY: No. SHOEBAT: Because that's what every single convert to Christianity from Islam must and does do. Why am I being called to be killed by the Muslims and Barack Hussein Obama to survive? So, you can see from Al Qaeda to the Muslim Brotherhood to Hamas, every single Muslim terrorist organization supports Barack Hussein Obama. So why would Americans want to have a president that is connected to Islam and that is proud to be Muslim? If he had converted to Christianity, he would change his name Hussein to something else. He would change his name Barack to something else. And maybe he would bury his old name that he used, you know, when he was a kid. LIDDY: Yeah. Let me ask you, Mr. Shoebat. Would you consider Barack Hussein Obama dangerous if he were commander in chief of the -- all the power and might of the armed forces of the United States? SHOEBAT: He would be extremely dangerous. He would -- he's already calling for dismantlement of nuclear weapons. He's already calling for negotiations with Islamists. He's already calling to help Arabs who are arrested in America. He's already professed to hold hands with the Muslims, and wanting to hold hands with the Muslims in his book. In his book, it's very clear. He mentioned that. He'd rather hold hands with the Muslims. So it is clear from his activities and his name and his connections to Rezko and Arafi with financial connections and all kinds of friendships with his cousin Odinga in Kenya, who is pro-Islamic Sharia, who wants to establish Sharia law -- let's not forget, also, over a thousand Christians were killed in Kenya. Burned. So where is Mr. Obama's denunciations of those things? LIDDY: Mr. Shoebat, we need to take a quick pause for the benefit of our advertisers.